i wasnt going for edge, you seem genuinely mistaken in your OP
Or, you seem genuinely mistaken as to what dysphoria is, how it manifests, and how it isn’t 100% needed to be apart of trans naratives. Can’t wait for the alarmist comic strip about me tho 👍
p sure dysphoria is the prerequisite for being trans and that it is 100% necessary to feel, regardless of level or intensity, in order to even remotely qualify as trans
“trans without dysphoria” is just fuckin’ cis dude sorry to bring you down off the high-horse
As I said yesterday these people are straight cis teenagers who just think not being straight or cis is cool.
thats the case for a good half of tumblrs userbase but the other half is just people who are far too old to be buying into stupid labels but do it anyway because they lack a personality and/or are completely boring people outside of their fabricated, overblown internet personalities (LIKE ME!!!1)
but seriously though i cant wait for the transtrender fad to die out already and be replaced with something as equally and naively offensive
Yes please. @plebcomics is 100% correct. Cut the transtrender bullshit and go find something else to make yourself special. Learn a language! Join the Peace Corps! Anything but making up fake identities on the internet.
So, the year and a half ibe been on perscribed hrt equates making myself “special.” Do ya’ll even pay attention to who you’re trying to mock sometimes?
If you don’t have dysphoria, then yes.
If you take hrt without having dysphoria, it’s almost guaranteed you’ll have it after.
You do know what hrt is for, right? Dysphoric people who take hrt on average feel way better and less dysphoric, some people’s dysphoria goes away because of hrt. Your description here is saying trans people who were dysphoric but were relieved of it from hrt will just wind up with dysphoria from hrt.
I know exactly what it’s for, it’s not hard to understand.
Are you sure you know what it does?
Dysphoria never goes away. Ever. It will continue to manifest, either it stays forever or even short episodes of fit. If you take hrt and you don’t have dysphoria, when your body changes from what it was comfortable with (hence no dysphoria) to something it knows its not, you will get dysphoria.
I know exactly what hrt does. I’ve been on it for quite some time and studied the process when I first resolved I needed hrt to save my life, back when I was a young teenager.
And, you don’t quite have a grasp on dysphoria. Dysphoria manifests differently, identity to identity, person to person. Sometimes dysphoria doesn’t register with a person until they’re in their sixties, sometimes it’s before their teens. Sometimes it’s physical, sometimes it’s social, a lot of times it’s both. Some people lose dysphoria. Some people dont. Some people lose it and regain it. Some people don’t hav ed dysphoria.
As a dysphoric trans woman who has been on hrt for as long as I have, my dysphoria is largely manageable. It isn’t until groups like plebcomics and co. start intentionally trying to misgender me that my dysphoria starts to sink in and hurt me. I’ve gone weeks without feeling dysphoric at points, and I await the day I can fully throw it out of my life for good.
Dysphoria does not define me. I am not trans because I’m dysphoric, I am dysphoric because I am trans.
Trans people without dysphoria are still trans.
lady, not that ive seen every reblog of this post but from what ive seen so far, nobody has misgendered you. if they have then yeah, theyre being pointlessly dickish and im sorry for that, seriously
in the meantime, your OP dont make any damn sense to this day and seems even more backwards/hypocritical in light of all the info youre dumping. “you dont need dysphoria to be trans, just all the discomfort you have about your physical sex and gender is what makes you trans!” like thats what dysphoria is buddy, thats what weve all been saying, its what youre saying! and nobody is saying dysphoria has to fuckin DEFINE your every being, just like how DEPRESSION doesnt define people either.
dysphoria is just the driving force behind the transitional(!) process. if you didnt fuckin have it then you wouldnt fucking bother with the TRANSITIONAL(!!) process to begin with. ergo without dysphoria youre just fuckin cis schlub just like the other NORMIES (”preps”, “squares”….every generation of counter-culture dopes has a word for “everyone else”)
I’ve been called cis numerous times by numerous people, you even said I was a “transtrender.” These things are saying I’m not a woman, misgendering.
You still don’t understand dysphoria or transition. It’s pretty clear you don’t care to learn, so peace out pleb. Try not to bully trans kids like you normally do.
point out exactly where i said you personally were a transtrender and also point out where ive called you anything but a chick. oh look here we are in the same comment/reblog stream weve had from the beginning and literally none of the dumb bullshit youre whining about happening has happened in any direct exchanges youve had with me
do yourself a favor and go down to the nearest hardware store and buy yourself a crowbar so you can pry your head out of your tight-ass; nobody is fucking attacking or bullying you for being TRANS. youre being disagreed with and mocked for being a stubborn moron with a dumb opinion.
if i considered all the reblogs from you and your followers and theirs that mocked and disagreed with me HARASSMENT i think id have a case in fuckin federal court. lucky for me ive matured past the age of 8 and realize that people can have thoughts and opinions different than mine and it literally has no effect on anything.
So I’m planning to post a few of these. I’ve gone through and watched the miniseries several times now and me and my friends have been talking about pretty frequently in the past month or so. We have a lot of ideas of symbolism and what do certain aspects of the shows represent.
This one in particular however I have to give credit to my friend Sydney because it took her one watch to crack this baby open. I hadn’t even thought of it and I haven’t seen one person to take this conclusion away even after multiple re-watches. Looking back on it though, it seems fairly obvious.
It has to do with the beast and the idea of just what the heck is it?
The most common fan interpretation going around is that the beast resembles the devil, or something along those lines. A monster that feeds on dying souls. However, as a few of my friends pointed out, that interpretation doesn’t really make much sense.
If The Unknown is the Afterlife, then how would dying be of any real concern? Are you double dead at that point? Does your soul cease to exist? Double Dying is not a particularly novel idea and it does provide stakes to a story, but why does the Beast feed indiscriminately on children? And how does the Woodsman’s daughter come back at the end. There are some missing elements.
However, when we start to consider other elements of the show, the beast’s true identity becomes clear.
First things first, let’s take a look at an element nobody seems to be able to make sense of. That being the turtles.
The Black Turtles are all over this show and most people who’ve tried to interpret them can’t really say that they are much more than a motif. But we know that isn’t true considering what they do to Beatrice’s Dog.
Beatrice’s Dog, smelling the candy Greg put on a turtle, eats it and then becomes a hideous monster with glowing eyes, hellbent on chasing the boys and devouring the entirety of Greg’s candy. The monster it becomes is terrifying and comes pretty close to ripping Greg and Wirt to shreds. So we know without a doubt the turtles have some kind of evil magic.
Without the turtle, Beatrice’s dog is just a sweet puppy who even helps get Greg out of the river. The turtles make him malicious, and interestingly enough, obsessed with a thing he did when he ate the turtle in the first place. Getting all of Greg’s candy is all it cares about, to the point it jumps off of a house.
The next time we see the Turtles is in The Ringing of the Bell, when Greg and Wirt encounter bunches of them kept in barrels. This is where people get confused about the turtles because we see Auntie Whispers eat them but without going through any kind of transformation. We assume Auntie Whispers initially is evil but later discover she’s a kind old woman just trying to protect Lorna, and she even warns the boys about Adelaide. However there is one character in the show who is corrupted by evil.
We don’t know if Lorna ate a turtle or not, but it is interesting she’s another good person turned crazy after being in close proximity to them. I’m going to say she didn’t eat them though, as when Wirt commands the spirit to leave, Lorna isn’t coughing up any black turtles. Auntie Wither’s also mentions it’s Greg and Wirt’s influence that has made her wicked again. But what does Lorna affectionately refer to them as? Her turtles. They are a corrupting force just like the turtles, something Lorna would know, and they corrupt her in the same way the turtles corrupt Beatrice’s Dog. Why then does Auntie Whisper’s have all these turtles? Well, we know Auntie Whisper’s is a good woman, if a bit strange looking, and also has magical abilities. Perhaps she’s eating the turtles as a way of disposing of them to keep them from hurting other people, and over the years it’s taken its toll on her physical appearance.
Either way, this is sort of where we begin to see how evil corrupts souls in The Unknown. Unlike Beatrice’s Dog, the spirit possessing Lorna is a lot more conniving of an evil monster. It uses her voice to speak to Greg and Wirt to try and convince them to let her eat them. It’s a bit more plotting.
So now let’s look at the beast. A strange monster running around in the woods lying and manipulating people into keeping its lantern lit. However, interestingly enough, we have no idea how long the Beast has been around. It could be generations, or it could be a few months. We have no idea. The woodsman and the tavern people let us know what the Beast does, but it could be the Beast has only been doing it for a few weeks. The warning would be the same either way.
Let’s say a person, or rather a child, curiously wandered out into the woods and got lost in the dark. Frightened, they ran out of oil for the lamp, and were caught wandering blindly through the forest. Now let’s say that person somehow wound up eating a turtle, or maybe, considering their oily appearance, tried to use the turtle as lantern fuel.
Of course that’s just a theory, but the give away that the Beast has eaten a turtle comes when Wirt proposes that the Lantern actually contains the Beast’s soul. The Beast immediately evaporates all the light around him, and Wirt frightened, looks into the dark, but then notices the Beast’s eyes.
They’re the same beautiful eyes of Beatrice’s Dog when it ate a turtle and became a monster. Wirt then get’s a look on his face as if he understands something, and he realizes the Beast has no power, and that he can just take Greg and go.
So if this was the case, then who was the Beast before it ate the turtle? From it’s appearance, it looks distinctly like a tree from the forest. But what I always notice is the Beast’s cape that he wears almost like a shawl. The Beast also has an interesting connection with the Woodsman too. Since the Woodsman carries the Beast’s lantern. But the Beast knows interesting details about the Woodsman’s life, like the fact the Woodsman strayed from his cabin because he couldn’t stand coming home to find it empty. The Woodsman in turn seems to be the person in the wood to know the most about the Beast having wrestled the lantern away from it. They both share a motif connection with tree’s as the Woodsman chops them down for Lumber, and the Beast creates the trees out of souls.
Who then is the Beast?
The Beast is not lying when it says the soul of the Woodsman’s daughter is in the lantern, because the Beast is the woodsman’s daughter. The black shawl, the connection with trees, the fact that in the series opener, it is spring and she’s looking curiously off into the woods, as if wondering what exists out there.
When the Woodsman blows out the lantern once and for all, the next time we see him he is home at his cabin, not going inside because we know he can’t stand to see it empty, and who should come out to greet him but his daughter.
She’s even carrying a candle to symbolize the lantern. We don’t see any of the other people the Beast turned into tree’s reappear, so why then does the daughter survive. Because she was the beast.
In the very next cut too, we see the fish in the rowboat from episode 8, which we know was in the same area as the Beast since by that pond is where Wirt begins to turn into an Edelwood tree. And what is the fish pulling out of the pond?
A black turtle. Presumably the one the Woodsman’s daughter ate.
My theory then is this, the Woodsman’s daughter wandered out into the woods, got lost in the dark and had her lantern go out. She tried to use a turtle as fuel and as a result, became the Beast.
TL;DR: The Beast is the woodsman daughter because she ate/used a turtle as lantern fuel.
